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After the Foundation Era: Tokens, Policy, and Startup Structures

22.08.2025
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with @eddylazzarin @milesjennings @JasonYanowitz

Welcome to web3 with a16z crypto. Today’s episode is on a super timely topic: How to design, govern, and grow decentralized networks in today’s changing policy landscape. It covers:

  • Why the foundation era of crypto is ending — and what comes next with DUNAs and BORGs
  • How U.S. policy shifts are creating real rules of the road
  • The difference between network tokens vs. company tokens (and why it matters for investors, builders, and other participants)
  • When protocols should flip the fee switch and start generating revenue
  • Common mistakes founders make when launching tokens and structuring projects

To unpack it all, you’ll hear from Miles Jennings, head of policy and general counsel at a16z crypto, and Eddy Lazzarin, a16z crypto’s CTO, in conversation with Jason Yanowitz, cofounder of Blockworks and host of the Empire podcast (where this conversation first aired) ... and which we’re excited to bring to you here.

Timestamps

Introduction

Regulatory Progress and Optimism in DC

The Problem with Offshore Foundations

The End of the Foundation Era

DUNAs and BORGs: New Legal Structures

Understanding Network Tokens

Network Tokens: Beyond L1 and L2

Company Tokens: Evolution and Challenges

The Legal Landscape of Token Offerings

Turning on the Fee Switch: When and Why

Balancing Portfolio Needs and Regulatory Clarity

Common Questions from Founders

Conclusion
 

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