Grant Lee is the co-founder of Gamma, the AI-powered presentation tool that’s one of the hottest and most interesting AI startups in the world right now. They’re valued at over $2 billion, and they hit $100 million ARR in just over two years, with a lean team of just around 30 people. Unlike many fast-growing AI startups, Gamma has been profitable for most of its history, has not raised significant funding, and they built a massive business in a category most investors dismissed. In fact, one investor told Grant his idea was “the dumbest idea he had ever heard.”
We discuss:
• How Gamma found product-market fit by rethinking their onboarding
• Their process for building a “word-of-mouth machine”
• How they leveraged more than 1,000 micro-influencers instead of big names
• Why focusing on the “first 30 seconds” transformed their business
• Their approach to pricing that led to profitability within months
• How Grant thinks about building a durable “GPT wrapper” business
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Where to find Grant Lee:
• X: https://x.com/thisisgrantlee
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grantslee
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In this episode, we cover:
() Introduction to Grant Lee and Gamma
() The founding story of Gamma
() Achieving product-market fit
() Self-awareness as a founder
() The power of onboarding
() The original insight that led to Gamma
() Founder-led marketing and growth tactics
() Sharing online
() Getting to $100M ARR
() Influencer marketing as a growth strategy
() Virality is not an accident
() Investing in brand before paid ads
() Tips for getting started with performance marketing
() Prototyping and user feedback
() Adapting and moving quickly
() The concept of GPT wrapper companies
() Deep dive into workflow and model utilization
() Pricing strategies
() Hiring philosophy and practices
() Betting big on high performers
() Final thoughts and lightning round
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References: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-50-people-built-a-profitable-ai-unicorn
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Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.
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