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Stop being skeptical about AI for development with Charity Majors

12.08.2026
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In 2025, it was rational to be skeptical about AI, but in 2026 it’s clear that AI is changing all of the industry, and there’s less and less place for skepticism. This take is from one of my favorite voices in software reliability and observability: Charity Majors, CTO and cofounder of Honeycomb, co-author of Observability Engineering. (Note: the second edition of Observability Engineering is out, and it’s pretty much a full rewrite of the book, I recommend grabbing it if you’re building reliable systems)

In this episode, I sat down with Charity to discuss how her thinking on AI has evolved, why she believes it is becoming a foundational part of software engineering, and what that means for how teams build, review, and ship software.

We explore how AI is changing the economics of code generation, why reliability and verification are increasingly the bottlenecks, and why the rise of non-deterministic systems requires more engineering discipline. Charity shares her views on code reviews, observability, DevOps, leadership, and why both AI skeptics and enthusiasts are getting important things right.

Timestamps

Intro

How Parse led to Honeycomb

The limits of individual productivity metrics

How Charity’s perspective on AI has evolved

Rewriting code vs. editing code

Production as a stage of development

Code reviews

Non-deterministic systems

Sensible uses of AI

The two AI camps

Why AI works so well for building software

DevOps

Modern observability

Handling context overload

What’s new in Observability Engineering’s 2nd edition

What effective leadership looks like

Engineering management: what is changing?

Junior engineers

AI fatigue

Book recommendations

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